Synology Moments and Daminion


On 1st Nov 2017, Synology introduced a new photo management package called Moments.  This is part of an integrated suite of apps that include Drive, Calendar, MailPlus and Synology Office and is Synology’s answer to Office 365 and Google apps.

This article explores whether Synology owners can use Moments as a substitute for Photo Station as the web front end to Daminion.  Synology Drive is a prerequisite to Moments (see this article for more information about Drive.)

The Future of Photo Station

Synology haven’t made any formal announcements about the future of Photo Station.  There have been no significant enhancements to it since 2016 but this is probably because the development team have been concentrating on the new product.  Unofficially, they have been saying that the two products are complementary with Photo Station aimed at serious photographers and Moments at casual users – people who want to organise their selfies, as one forum member suggested.

Annoyingly, when you login to Photo Station you get a reminder that Moments is the new photo management solution.  Whether that’s a simple marketing idea or a hint about Photo Station’s future is unclear.

Synology Moments Features and Impacts

Public / Private

Moments and Photo Station differ in one esential way.  Photo Station uses a standard shared folder \photo that is public by default.  Therefore Photo Station is publicly accessible too (although it can be locked down.)  Moments takes the opposite view – each user has a Moments folder that is nested inside their personal Drive folder which means that the photos are private unless explicitly shared.  If your intent is to share management of the library with other users or for your entire library to be publicly available on the web, this creates some challenges which will be dealt with later.


Moments is much easier to set up than Photo Station which has so many configuration options that it can be a challenge to get it right.  Because it is private by default, Moments is able to use fewer configuration options.

User Interface

Moments UI is simpler, cleaner and looks much more modern than Photo Station.

Face Recognition

Photo Station’s FR is a beast – there’s no other way to describe it.  It is a resource hog and creates so many false entries that it is a waste of time.  Moments’ version is a quantum leap forwards.  It is very fast and seems to be free of the glitches that caused Photo Station to identify features in the landscape as faces.

However, it has a fundamental flaw.  It does misidentify people, so you end up with a group of photos linked to a person label that includes wrongly identified people.  In itself that’s not a surprise.  What is a surprise is there’s no way to remove or relabel the incorrect entries.  This renders the feature useless, so I turn it off.

And, as every vendor on the planet knows but doesn’t address,  FR is only part of the solution to the challenge of People Recognition.  Unless a person is shown full face or with a substantial partial face, they cannot be recognised.  You will always have to manually tag people who are in profile or are seen from another angle, and Moments has no facility to tag these as people because it’s only concerned with faces.  That doesn’t work for me so i turn FR off.

Places / Geolocation

Photo Station has some issues with geolocation, the most significant being that it frequently fails to find a match for the location you enter, forcing you to search by postcode or by panning the map, and then to manually move the marker. Having done so, you cannot edit the label to the one you want.  Accept the old label and the marker moves back to the original position.

In Moments, you don’t search for a place.  Instead it assumes that all images already have GPS coordinates and performs a reverse lookup to derive an address label for the image, and then it groups matching items together.  That’s great if you are using a smartphone with GPS, but very few DSLR cameras are GPS enabled.  The vast majority of my photos have no GPS coordinates and I have to add those manually using Daminion.

Again, there is no ability to edit the Moments label, which is unfortunate because they can be wildly inaccurate.  For example the auto-applied label, United States of America, Utah, Washington County,  Left Fork of North Creek is actually Zion National Park!  And in the rural area where I live,  the same, very inaccurate, label is applied to places within a 5 mile radius of each other which is crazy when GPS is accurate to less than a metre. 

Because of these inaccuracies I have disabled Places.

Object Recognition

All the big players are offering automating object or subject tagging, the theory being that you don’t have to spend time tagging and can find your photos easily.  The reality is  very different. Of the hundreds that were created for my library, the number of useful auto subjects was… zero.  Here are some examples of how inaccurate they are:

Recognising the built environment is no better.  A picture of the Eiffel Tower was labelled as “Architecture.”

Automatic subject tags cannot be edited, and incorrectly identified items cannot be removed so, once again, this functionality is of little use for the serious photographer.

To be fair, Synology is not alone in this.  I tried the same photos with other apps from big players like Microsoft and Google and they all performed as badly.  AI has a way to go before subject labelling is going to be useful for serious photographers.

Auto Tagging – Conclusion

Whether it’s Faces, Places or Subjects, automated tagging is currently only useful to the casual photographer.  If all you are trying to do is organise a few hundred photos then you will probably forgive the occasional wrong label.

What we have is a classic trilemma. The serious photographer needs a DAM app such as Daminion to enable them to manually tag their library.  Auto tagging is free and fast but it is not accurate.  Manual tagging is slower and not free, but it is accurate.

Keyword Support

So, as far as auto tagging is concerned it turns out that Moments is no more useful to the serious photographer than Photo Station.  The good news is that, like Photo Station, Moments supports keywords embedded in the image files.  And it recognises the same keyword set that Photo Station uses, so if you want to transfer to Moments, you do not need to rework the metadata.

Accessing the keywords is a little different.  In Photo Station the keywords are presented as general tags in a set of alphabetically sorted thumbnails.  Moments also uses thumbnails but presents them in random order. Scrolling to find a specific keyword is almost impossible in a large library.  The best way to find a keyword is to use the search function.  Fortunately this is very fast, just like Photo Station, and you will see matching keywords as you type which is very helpful if you are not sure what search words to use..

Sharing content

In Moments you can share:

  • Files
  • Albums.  An album is a collection of files that you select manually and assign a name to.  You can add content to an Album retrospectively.
  • You can’t share folders, but you can put the contents of a folder into an album in a couple of clicks.
  • In Photo Station you could create URLs that performed a seeded search of the public library.  You can do that in Moments but they won’t be public shares, you will need to login to see the search results.  Not good.

Sharing has been made far less complex than in Photo Station.  Everything you need is on one dialog box that appears when you have selected the content and  pressed the share button:

Shared links do not appear in any central library so you need to keep track of them separately, perhaps in Note Station.  You could also create a public web page of your links.  Or you could create a publicly shared Synology Office document that contains the links.

Be aware that if you move shared content, the share link will break.

How to make Moments your core library

Despite all the downsides, you may decide that you would like to use Moments as your core library.  With effect from Moments version 1.2.o-0638 you have two options:

  1. Create a private library by moving your content
  2. Make the standard \photo share available in Moments

1. Copy / Move your content

Photo Station requires the content to be in the \photo share.  Moments will not work with that share, even if you make it a Team Folder.  The images must be in your My Drive location.  And the best place for them is /home/Drive/Moments. If you don’t use that location but put them elsewhere inside My Drive then you will need to tell Moments to look outside the standard location.  You do this here:

However, if you turn that option ON, be aware that it will do exactly what it says and will scan and index every image or video in your My Drive area.  It found and indexed my entire library of screenshots and gifs.  Impressive but not what I wanted.  It’s a pity it’s such a blunt instrument.  It would be better if you could pick the folders to include / exclude.

It is recommended that you copy your \photo share content instead of moving it.  That will make it easier to switch back to Photo Station if Moments doesn’t work for you, as well as protecting your library in the event of a technical problem with Moments.

2. Make the \photo share available in Moments

The process is described here

Any change, move, add or deletion that is made in Moments will be reflected in Photo Station.  The Daminion Catalog will out of sync until you rescan the folders.  This would be a good use case for adopting Daminion Home Server.


Paul Barrett